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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:08 pm 
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Is there anything wrong with using copyrighted characters in a mural? I have been asked to do a mural for hire, and am still thinking about costs to charge.

The clients daughter wants princesses etc.- i would rather draw my own or at least adapt the classic prinsesses, but the girl wants none of that

It is not for public display, it will make a little girl happy, but I have to keep costs down

ANy thoughts?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:35 pm 
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I say it's fine, for a variety of reasons, the most important of which being that it's not used to market something else (unlike, say, Spider-man eating a slice on the side wall of a pizzeria). The simple fact that it's an interior residence makes a world of difference.

Secondly, it's for a kid.

Third, the Disney designs were rarely if ever the work of a single mind. The designs were usually team collaborations of characters in the public domain. While using them for profit reasons is unethical, there's no reason to feel mired down in moral turpitude.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:10 pm 
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Disney will sue your butt off if you paint their characters in public places (they sued a daycare in Florida for doing that!) But if it's not in public, like in a bedroom or something? I see nothing unethical or illegal about painting pictures of Disney princesses. They can't possibly claim you are impeding their ability to make money, even in the incredibly unlikely event that they were to find out about it. Knock yourself out.

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I knew that that my Communication Law class would NEVER come up again, but here we are.

The major thing that you need to worry aboutis whether the copyright owner will ever see or hear about your work. If the answer is 'no,' then is fall into the moral relm of you making money off anothers hard work (your choice).

If the answer is 'yes,' then you may want to prepare for a lawsuit. The copyright holder will have to prove two things to win: 1) that you had access to the copyrighted work (ie. movie, coloring books, photos at Disneyland) and 2) the the works are substantially similar. Now the wording is hard to pin-point if you would end up getting busted or not,; the judge gets to decide the meaning of substantially.

Fines can be hefty, and there have been reported cases of jail time. That said, don't let me discouage your venture. Now, if you do get yourself in a situation, you can you the 'fair use' defence. It has four parts 1) the purpose and character of the use of the copyrighted work; 2)the nature of the copyrighted work' 3) the amount and the substantiallity of the portion used; and 4) the effect of the use upon the the potential market or value of the copyrighted work.

If it were me, I would lean on the forth point. I mean, come on, are you really going to deminish the value of of the Disney band. I sure hope not.

Another justification would be that of 'parody.' But in this one you have to acknowledge that you are deriving a work from another. Your work has to be recognizable, but different enough that it is original.

**DISCLOSURE** I am not a lawyer. If you have questions about this, go ask a real one. I just have a degree in Mass Comm.

All that said, if I had a paying gig for artwork, I would risk the fines and jail time just to get my stuff out there.

Good luck.

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