Fight for your right...copyright, that is..
- Gunwhale
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Fight for your right...copyright, that is..
Lately, I've been thinking about copyrighting a character and name that I've been working on for a while now. I'm reading up on copyright procedures and registration at the US Copyright Office website, but I just wanted to hear from Kazu, the Flight contributors or just anybody who has copyrighted their stuff.
What has been your experience with it? How far along did you decide to copyright--beginning stages of development, or just before publication? Has anyone had any problems or infringements or anything?
I think this would be a good topic to get feedback on for all of us creators who are going to deal with this eventually.
What has been your experience with it? How far along did you decide to copyright--beginning stages of development, or just before publication? Has anyone had any problems or infringements or anything?
I think this would be a good topic to get feedback on for all of us creators who are going to deal with this eventually.
You are copyright-protected the moment you create the work, and it's actually very, very difficult for someone to infringe on your copyright. However, before I was published, I used to mail myself packages of my own work to myself and store them away somewhere. Sending material to the Copyright office is basically the same thing, only they'll store it somewhere for a fee. Once I developed a readership with my website and had the material printed in magazines and books, I haven't worried much about copyright protection.
It's important to note, however, that when I stopped worrying about this stuff (before getting published), my work got better. My worries about protecting my copyright was more indicative about my fears of "not making it" than it was about actual copyright protection. What I decided to do was to put more emphasis on my skills and not on concepts, so I started taking very tried-and-true genre concepts and started making them my own. Among my projects, there is nothing I am working on today that hasn't been done before in concept, but they just haven't yet been done by me. Alleviating your fears is imperative for creating good, confident work, so I found that by developing this work method, I worry less.
To answer your questions:
How far along did you decide to copyright--beginning stages of development, or just before publication?
Neither.
Has anyone had any problems or infringements or anything?
Personally, not yet. Or at least not that I know of. I've seen people steal my website template or use Copper strips to decorate their websites, but there has yet to be a case where I would be prompted to take any action.
It's important to note, however, that when I stopped worrying about this stuff (before getting published), my work got better. My worries about protecting my copyright was more indicative about my fears of "not making it" than it was about actual copyright protection. What I decided to do was to put more emphasis on my skills and not on concepts, so I started taking very tried-and-true genre concepts and started making them my own. Among my projects, there is nothing I am working on today that hasn't been done before in concept, but they just haven't yet been done by me. Alleviating your fears is imperative for creating good, confident work, so I found that by developing this work method, I worry less.
To answer your questions:
How far along did you decide to copyright--beginning stages of development, or just before publication?
Neither.
Has anyone had any problems or infringements or anything?
Personally, not yet. Or at least not that I know of. I've seen people steal my website template or use Copper strips to decorate their websites, but there has yet to be a case where I would be prompted to take any action.
- Michel Gagne
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Yeah, I never bother with that stuff either. My wife usually sends a copy of my published books to the copyright office. If I go pitch an original idea to a studio, I usually register it with the "writer guild of America" before doing the pitches, but that's about it.
People have used my artwork without permission before (there's even a book in Russia where my design was used for the cover without my consent or credit) but frankly, I don't really care. The more exposure, the better as far as I'm concerned.
People have used my artwork without permission before (there's even a book in Russia where my design was used for the cover without my consent or credit) but frankly, I don't really care. The more exposure, the better as far as I'm concerned.

- Gunwhale
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Kazu, Michel, thanks for answering.
Focusing on improving skill rather than innovating concepts makes a lot more sense, Kazu.
Thanks!
By the way, how's the coloring going on Amulet, Kazu?
I finished my first colored strip a couple of weeks ago, and it was my first time using a Wacom tablet for serious, as well as Photoshop channels and whatnot.
Focusing on improving skill rather than innovating concepts makes a lot more sense, Kazu.
That pretty much sums up my motive for looking into the Copyright Office. I guess I was just worried that, I have an idea that I-- along with other people I've shown it to--think is worth developing, and then possibly years down the road, I'd find out someone else had already done it. But you've given me better perspective on it.My worries about protecting my copyright was more indicative about my fears of "not making it" than it was about actual copyright protection
Thanks!

By the way, how's the coloring going on Amulet, Kazu?
I finished my first colored strip a couple of weeks ago, and it was my first time using a Wacom tablet for serious, as well as Photoshop channels and whatnot.
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I've registered copyright with a couple of things just before I sent them to publishers. Maybe I'm just paranoid? Comics have got to be just about the hardest thing to infringe copyright on though, I think. So much of the process is just the act of cranking out those pages- there are no short-cuts when it comes to drawing pages! And even if someone did want to steal my ideas and draw their own comic based on them- it won't look like my drawings. Anyone talented enough to copy someone else's style exactly would find it much easier to work in their own style of drawing. And it's not like you could get print-quality images by downloading jpegs off my site.
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- Mac McCool
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In many cases it's true and it's for good reason. It's because you're an artist and postmarks are easily doctored. A judge has no way of knowing for sure who is being honest. I've also heard stories of people sending themselves empty envelopes registered mail and who knows how many other creative ways people can think of to cheat one another.Azad wrote:ive heard mailing yourself is an urban legend. doest hold up in court
Best advise, don't worry about copyrights. Do your best work and publish it online. There's are ways for tracking your work once it's online to prove when you created it and in some cases, who has seen it. Besides, stress kills creativity. Don't put yourself through it.
Copyrights do more than just protect the idea or prevent others from trying to ape your style (which cannot be copyrighted anyway).
And registering the copyright is not only about preventing others from claiming your work as their own.
Sometimes, people just take copies of sketches, illos, or comics by hot artists, self-publish a book, and sell them on eBay, raking in millions.
Okay, I don't know about raking in millions or even several thousands.
But I imagine it's enough to make them keep doing it.
Also, some clients will seek out cheaper freelance artists and instruct them to outright copy or manipulate another's work.
Usually though, the work being copied is work-for-hire and the headache of the owner not the artist.
Registering with the copyright office ensures your claim will be supported in court should you need to take action (mailing to yourself doesn't hold up in the US).
Of course, the costs usually outweigh the benefits unless the violator's sales are more than it would cost to find and sue him.
As others have mentioned, its very rare. I suspect it has more to do with the medium, artists, and culture. Music and film is a whole other ballgame.
To register or not to register is also not that big of a deal because you still have some time (1 year I believe) to register it after you discover a violation you may want to prosecute.
And registering the copyright is not only about preventing others from claiming your work as their own.
Sometimes, people just take copies of sketches, illos, or comics by hot artists, self-publish a book, and sell them on eBay, raking in millions.
Okay, I don't know about raking in millions or even several thousands.
But I imagine it's enough to make them keep doing it.
Also, some clients will seek out cheaper freelance artists and instruct them to outright copy or manipulate another's work.
Usually though, the work being copied is work-for-hire and the headache of the owner not the artist.
Registering with the copyright office ensures your claim will be supported in court should you need to take action (mailing to yourself doesn't hold up in the US).
Of course, the costs usually outweigh the benefits unless the violator's sales are more than it would cost to find and sue him.
As others have mentioned, its very rare. I suspect it has more to do with the medium, artists, and culture. Music and film is a whole other ballgame.
To register or not to register is also not that big of a deal because you still have some time (1 year I believe) to register it after you discover a violation you may want to prosecute.
Yeah,
We could all spend a lot of time worrying about copyrights. But I like to remember that mimicry is the best form of flattery. Meaning - if your stuff is worth others trying to copy it, it's probably good and will gain an audience of its own if you continue to produce it.
The one thing that I would add is that an official government copyright will make your work property of your estate for 50 years after your death; rather than going straight to public domain. This way your family, spouse or whoever you will your earthly life away too can reap the benefits of your work.
But, like life insurance and retirement, many of us are just trying to start a career in this field rather than think about being old or dead. So I agree with the notion of being a heart and soul creator and not worrying about the copy-cats.
We could all spend a lot of time worrying about copyrights. But I like to remember that mimicry is the best form of flattery. Meaning - if your stuff is worth others trying to copy it, it's probably good and will gain an audience of its own if you continue to produce it.
The one thing that I would add is that an official government copyright will make your work property of your estate for 50 years after your death; rather than going straight to public domain. This way your family, spouse or whoever you will your earthly life away too can reap the benefits of your work.
But, like life insurance and retirement, many of us are just trying to start a career in this field rather than think about being old or dead. So I agree with the notion of being a heart and soul creator and not worrying about the copy-cats.
- jdalton
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No it's up to 90-something years now, isn't it? When I write my will (when I need a will), I'm going to stipulate that I want all my copyrights to be treated as public domain 50 years after I die. That's the way it should be.JoePotato wrote: The one thing that I would add is that an official government copyright will make your work property of your estate for 50 years after your death; rather than going straight to public domain.
JDalton- Truly! I've been studying up on copyright laws off and on for a year or so now (since the first essay I had to do on it) and the extensions granted lately are turns for the worst, in my opinion. I personally wouldn't care if the copyright on my own things ended 20 years afterwards, if it helped someone else in their creative endevors. Of course, I'm not banking on anything of mine ever being my decendents main source of income (as it shouldn't anyway). ^_^
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